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Chris
That's why we've got to know God's Word and why theology really, truly does matter. Why I love to preach God's Word and why I try to do it so passionately. Because it's not just facts or things that that don't really matter to the day to day program of our lives. They literally matter in everything we do, every environment we live, every relationship that we are in.

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Brenton
Welcome back to further. I am Brenton Grim. Today we got Chris here again. He preached this weekend, so that makes sense this year.

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Chris
I guess so.

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Brenton
How are you doing?

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Chris
Pretty good. Yeah. You know, busy time. Exciting time. You know, we're going to get into it here in a little bit, but, you know, some big news on, Sunday that I've been looking forward to announcing for quite a while. So it's an exciting day.

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Brenton
Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of excitement in the church for it. So going to be going to be a good two years. Hopefully. Okay. Let's let's start off with something out of, and your message and then we'll get back into the, the old stuff. But, you made kind of a strong statement on Sunday.

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Brenton
You said that if we're not proclaiming Jesus, that might indicate we haven't been changed by Jesus. You cited second Corinthians five to back that up. Where Paul says that we are ambassadors of Christ. But I'm wondering, can you spend a little time talking about this? What? What exactly do you mean by that?

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Chris
Well, I will begin with a quote from John Piper, which, where he says that we, come into what we cherish. So the things that we, we we, we cherish, that we love, we're going to command, we're going to talk about we're going to want other people to, to to be able to celebrate or join in with us.

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Chris
And I mean, there's there's tons of examples that we can use. And just for example, on Sunday, at the Berlin campus for the early service and at the door, you know, people coming in and saying, hi, one of my favorite things to do, by the way, and, guy comes and gives me a hard time about the Dodgers beating the Yankees in the World Series.

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Chris
And, he's not the, the only one. I mean, my wife got stopped by somebody in Walmart, a couple of weeks ago, and they were rubbing it in to me through her and even didn't even know who this this person was. It. I figured it out because he decided to share some details, but I just, you know, and it's a fairly common experience.

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Chris
We we see people, you know, cheering for their teams especially, you know, bragging about their teams when they win. And a lot of Kansas City Chiefs fans these days, you know, and all that kind of stuff. And but it's true. Whether it's our, you know, our kids or grandkids, you know, this new food that we found that we try or store or, you know, essential oil or something like that.

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Brenton
It's a big one with you.

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Chris
Yeah, yeah. I the point is, is that, you know, if if we're, we just do this, like, when we, when we find something that we enjoy, that we love, that we take pride in, that we're excited about. And so, you know, if we're not talking about Jesus with other people or sharing, like, what he's done in our lives and all of that, like what, what what does that mean?

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Chris
And I'm not saying it means that we're not saying, but it might mean like, there's something that we're missing there. And it was something we need to we need to wrestle with. We need to reckon with, that, that that, is a if we're not proclaiming Jesus, that's a problem. That's not something that should be expected to be the norm for for followers of Jesus.

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Chris
And, of course, it goes back to even the Great Commission. And I guess Jesus's final command, what's he called us to is to is to make disciples. And you do that by proclaiming him, by talking to him, by sharing with him. So, I think it's really easy to say, you know, this is only for people who are good at talking to people or it's only for, you know, pastors or church leaders or like, and that's just not, I just don't think that that's the case.

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Chris
And there's lots of passages I could have gone to. But Second Corinthians chapter five is one I think that ties those things together. Maybe better than any.

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Brenton
Yeah. Going back to, you know, we, we talk about the things that were that we're interested in and I think some of that is an extension of just that we were we were made to worship and we're, we're going to worship something. And so maybe in some cases it's just a redirection of where our priorities are and what we what we decide to, you know, worship.

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Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And so it, it, it wasn't meant, you know, the statement was strong because I don't think it is something that we can simply ignore. And, it, it can, we can think that, okay, everything is okay if this is not, a part of, a part of our life, something that we're, we're giving ourselves to.

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Brenton
Yeah, but, I mean, maybe in some cases, that is the that is the takeaway than, hey, maybe we need to examine whether we are actually saved or not. So, yeah, I don't think you were wrong in, in how strong you said it, but, yeah, might take some digging to figure out where each individual person is. Okay, so so if we do find a believer that that does have issues, you know, it's just not a conversation that comes up often.

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Brenton
Or maybe it's it just hasn't been a priority in someone's life. What are some practical ways to to start taking this responsibility? Serious early?

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Chris
Well, I would first begin by saying, I think we can over complicate this and maybe sometimes this is an excuse, but I think a lot of times it's a real legitimate, whether it's a fear or just, yeah, it's probably, a fear or, a lack of believing we have what it takes or whatever. Like we've got a I don't have the right words.

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Chris
I don't know the right things to say. You know, I have I don't have any evangelism training. And, like, there's certainly a place for training and equipping and all that, but we're really just, at the basic level, we're just talking about, like, what? What has Jesus done for, for for me? What difference is he made in my life?

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Chris
Who have I come to believe that he is? And, I think of you know, the blind man that Jesus heals in the, the Pharisees are, you know, are grilling him about Jesus and all and, and and I think, I guess I, yeah, I don't really know exactly. I, I, I was, I was, at one time I was blind, but now I can see and and so it's, you know, it's not like we have to have all the answers, to that.

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Chris
And, you know, with the woman at the. Well, she. What did she do? She went and said, come, come and see this man who told me all that I ever did. This is like bringing people to Jesus. And that might mean bringing people to the to the to the church, bringing people to somebody else who maybe can help with that.

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Chris
But at the very least is like, this is this is my kind of what I'm a, I have an am experiencing with Jesus. And so I think we overcomplicate it a lot. With that being said, we try here, even in our preaching to equip people with the truth that they need in order to be able to share about Jesus.

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Chris
And so if we are really paying attention and, and maybe even just taking notes and thinking through, like we we share the gospel every week and, as quite frankly, maybe this will be another strong statement at some point. You got that? You got the excuse just no longer holds, like, I don't know what to say.

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Brenton
Yeah.

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Chris
But that being said, there are books that we offer some equip, few classes. You can, you know, the various ministries we have all like a D groups and then or just ask somebody, hey, I need some help learning how to do this. And in the world that we live in today, the context that we live in, there's really no, no excuse for, you know, the the resources are all there.

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Chris
Yeah. It's just a are we willing to, to take that step?

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Brenton
Yeah. Okay. That's helpful. Moving on to, yeah. What you announced this week. So, you introduced our new all in initiative. I'm curious if you can just kind of expand on it for for the audience here. You know, specifically, why are we doing this? We'll start there.

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Chris
Yeah, I go big picture, and then, we'll narrow it down a little bit. Zero in a big picture. This is our our mission, is to make disciples. Well, actually, we should start with it's our mission to be disciples and to make disciples of Jesus Christ. So, when those two things going together. And, and so we actually shared two goals.

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Chris
And this is to love the Lord and, love our neighbor and fulfill the great, great commandment. And that's right in line with our mission to be disciples, loving the Lord and making disciples, loving our neighbor. So there's there's the big picture, to to narrow it in to where we are at in, 2024, the Lord's incredibly blessed.

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Chris
Our church. We have a lot of resources, in, in virtually every way. And, I'm talking about time, talent, treasure. Like gifting. Like it just it's, it's just really, we are a very blessed church. And we, as the leaders do not, believe that the Lord would have us to coast, what? One of our elders, as we've been talking about this year, a lie.

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Chris
And I'll never forget, he goes, you know, when when you coast, you only coast one direction that's downhill. And and so, and obviously it takes energy and effort to go uphill. But but you're I mean, it's a really great point. You you're going uphill. Are you going downhill? And that's true in the Christian life.

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Chris
That's true for a church. And, we can look at all of the blessings and, and, and the work that God is doing amongst us. And, you know, you and I were in a, a staff meeting this morning where we're just sharing stories and, like, literally in the last two weeks, seven different people have come to faith through the ministry, through the ministries, in the the people of Harmony Bible Church, not in not just our staff, but but through various ministries and people, like sharing the gospel.

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Chris
We were just talking about like, that's an unusual kind of kind of work of God. And most of those, by the way, did or not have been in the services that are happening outside of, Sunday morning. And, and so, like what, what, you guys doing something here? And are we going to kind of step, in faith, into, what he's calling us to and to move forward.

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Chris
And because we, we sit here in our community, and, you know, numbers may be very, but roughly in Lee, Des Moines, Henry and Henderson counties, you got 100,000 plus people and, you know, the best estimate would say that 20,000 of those people, like 20% of those people go to church. That's that's probably way high, is probably closer to, in the single digits, to be honest with you.

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Chris
And then if you take the percentage of people who are going to a gospel preaching, gospel centered church, it it's much, much smaller than that. And so there's a huge, huge need, spiritual need not to mention, you know, physical needs, economic needs and all of that. And, and so we, we just look out and we, we see, that the harvest is plentiful.

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Chris
The fields are white for harvest. And how can we how do we know that? Well, we know from the scriptures we see just what God's doing in the here and now. And, and he's given us all these resources and all these blessings. And we do not believe that he blesses us simply for us to be cul de sacs of his blessing, but rather to be conduits of his blessing, like we have what we have for our enjoyment.

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Chris
Yes, but that's not the the only reason or the even the primary reason is so that we can be a blessing, to other people so that they can come into, the saving relationship with Jesus that we have. And so, I mean, I can talk about this a lot, but I think that the 8 to 1 is our mission, and two is our context of, of of where we are at and what God is, what God is doing.

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Chris
And, I will go a little bit further and say, you know, so this is not simply about reaching people, although that's a big part of it. It's also about us all, growing in our relationship with Jesus. So the the being disciples is as big a part. It really is even a bigger part. Because if we're being disciples, will make disciples.

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Chris
But, you know, personally, as the lead pastor, I look and I'm so thankful for all the people that God is bringing to us. And and I know the church is growing numerically, but the reality is, is like we we have, so we're growing in in width or breath. I really believe we need to grow in depth.

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Chris
And, and so this, journey is just, is about that just as much as it is about, you know, reaching new people.

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Brenton
Yeah. That's good. Maybe you've already answered this a little bit, but say two years down the road. What what do you want to see? What do you what would you have wanted to see come out of this?

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Chris
Well, I. It. Yeah. Let's just get real here. I and one of the the greatest burdens on my heart, is that we are not a consumeristic people. And I say we as I'm included in that, but I think, a great temptation in the, the culture country that we live in is, consumerism. Okay.

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Chris
We we we swim in that, you know, in that environment basically of just consumerism. And we're inundated with it and consume, consume, consume, consume, consume. And I think it's really easy for us to, to not recognize how consumeristic we are. And, you know, we look back at, what happened in the, you know, early years of our country and not just in the early years went on for a long time.

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Chris
When we look at slave ownership and we're like, how how could Christians be slave owners? So rifle question ask. I'm not too sure that, people 150 years from now are not going to look back at the church of today and say, how could you guys spend so much of your money on yourself? It's like we we got to be careful that we don't think, okay, you know, we are so much better than those Christians in the South, or really in our country as a whole 150 years ago.

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Chris
Right. Like, I mean, how are they so blind to it? And that's a good that is a legit question to ask. Like, I mean, it's fluster me to to to to to ask that question and to wrestle with that. But I, we have our own blind.

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Brenton
Spots.

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Chris
And it's just pride if we kind of think that we are so, you know, better than those and I, I really believe that, we're in danger of 150 years from now, Christians looking back, if the Lord doesn't come back and say, like, how in the world do you like you, you spending so much money on yourself when you have all of these people around you and around the world who not have the gospel, has you guys not read the New Testament because because that's what we say again about slavery.

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Chris
Like, you know, what Bible were were they reading? What Bible were we reading? And I see all that. This is like my, my, my burden is is like I think it's a real temptation for us to just approach Christianity and our faith in the church, like, you know, we approach just life in general is all about, you know, stuff and about more and about consuming and and so that's just, for me is, is can we, can we make some real significant progress?

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Chris
And this is where the participation comes in. Because the reality is, is we have a lot of people who don't participate. In any, in any meaningful or significant way. And for some people, they're new and they're they've just come to faith, but come to the church and, and so, okay, that there's, there's a time certainly to come in and like, figure out what's going on.

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Chris
And, you know, what's harmony about what's this Christian life thing about. But at some point we get to the place where we've gotta we gotta start being a being a part of that. And in and but but that begins not with the second part was with participation in loving our neighbors begins with loving the Lord.

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Chris
Do I do I love the Lord with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength? The answer to that is no for everybody. Okay, just if you did, would be perfect. Okay? The only one person that was Jesus. Okay. Who did? So the question isn't, you know, we're not we're not ultimately aiming to see everybody fully love Jesus with everything that they are.

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Chris
Like, that's not realistic. But what we can have is 100% participation and people being willing to say to the Lord, what what does it mean for me to to love you or to move toward loving you more than I do right now? Because here's what I can say for every I don't you know, I can't say specifically what God has for every single person, a really for anybody other than maybe myself in this journey.

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Chris
But here's what I can say that what he does want is he wants us all to love him more than we tomorrow or two years from now than he does today. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that that. Yeah. I mean, that's what maybe a lot hopefully is are we going to see I've thought about this a lot. I'm passionate about this.

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Chris
A lot is like, because, you know, I also say like my burden as the pastor, though, the pastor is, I don't I don't think God called me here to build a to a bigger, a bigger church, so to speak. Lies not about the numbers and campuses and all those kind of things that that all, in some ways has come to the Lord has done that and is doing that.

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Chris
Okay, great. But at the end of the day, none of that matters if people are not growing in their love for the Lord. Yeah, right. Because there's, I mean, it's possible in our own strength and for us to have the right strategies to get more people to come and to raise more money and like, all that kind of stuff.

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Chris
But that's that is not ultimately what the Lord. Yeah. Well cares about. Right.

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Brenton
Yeah. Okay. That's good. So speaking of the money. I want to ask kind of a hard question and I'm curious what you say. Yeah. What would you say to the cynic that is, you know, seeing this as putting lipstick on a capital campaign, trying to raise money but spiritualize it.

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Chris
Yeah, I first of all, I would say that's completely, understandable how someone might actually, look and say, okay, I hear what you're saying, but, you know, and and that's, I can understand it because of the experiences that I've had. And then I know a lot of people have had and there are a lot of pastors and in churches out there who have, you know, they they've not been trustworthy in the ways that they have handled money.

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Chris
Or or that they have, you know, really cared for and shepherded and managed the ministry. So if people, you know, I don't I don't begrudge anybody if that that's kind of like they're struggling with that. The only thing that I can say is, I could just say what my what my heart is and and ask and really, the elders.

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Chris
And it's not just me, but our elder team as a whole. Like, we we we approve this unanimously, spend a lot of time praying about it and talking about it. And we spent years like, this is more than five years in the making and we something that didn't share in something. But we pulled we pulled the plug numerous times.

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Chris
Yeah. Okay. And because we, we didn't, sense that the timing was right or, the that the Lord was in and in that moment that or that the church was ready for it, and most on most of those occasions because we didn't think that the church like, was, you know, like we were we were deep enough to go wide.

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Chris
So all I can say is, I would ask that, people would trust, our heart and then give us the opportunity. Maybe even more importantly, if you can't quite do that yet, to give us the opportunity, throughout this, just to display that this is what it's really going to be about, because I think if people give the opportunity and don't simply close their hearts off or their, you know, themselves off to this, that they are actually going to see that this is probably much different, perhaps, than any other.

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Chris
And we're not even call it a capital campaign, because that's not what it is. But any other kind of campaign of this type, that they've maybe ever experienced. So I mean, like, we was right up front. I'll be right out in front. Yes. There is going to come a moment where we're going to ask people to make a commitment and know, I mean, I said that pretty clearly on a Sunday.

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Chris
And I'm not ashamed about that. I'm not going to back down from that. Because for us to accomplish the mission, God has called us to do it, to reach people. It requires money. And, you know, you and I, are sitting in a building right now, that cost millions and millions of dollars. Yeah. Okay. And yet we're we're approaching, a thousand people each weekend coming here and that's just on Sunday, you know, like literally almost every day of the week, people come in and, and, and be ministered to and, and coming to know the Lord.

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Chris
And so like a lot of that doesn't happen unless you have a place. So yeah. But at the end of the day, here's what I truly believe. I don't really miss me. Sounds strange. I'm not really all that worried about the money, but frankly, I'm not hardly worried about it at all. Maybe that I'd be more worried about it, but I truly believe that if we that that first goal is met, the primary goal where people do go before the Lord and they love him more and their heart, they with all the heart, soul, mind and strength and move in that direction.

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Chris
That, that, that secondary goal is just and it'll just flow out of that. And we we've got to realize is that, you know what Jesus says, where your treasure is, there, where your heart be also. And so your treasure, you know, follow your heart, your heart follow your treasure. You know, at least two things are, are linked, together.

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Chris
And yeah, so I'm not going to we're not to back away, we're going to be open and we're going to be honest. And, the last thing I would say and this and maybe, maybe I have another question. But I would ask people like it if you are overly cynical about this, like what? What why why are you cynical about it?

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Chris
Like, there's a, there's like, again, there's like little like I'm not sure sure. I'm, I'm kind of questioning this, but if it's just a hard and fast like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah. You know, only about money do we really need to spend this amount of money. And that's a which is a little intimate question like, okay, do we really need to spend this amount?

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Chris
Yes. But there's a difference between legitimately asking that question and just being like, we don't. Yeah. Come on. You know, like we're like, are we open to what the Lord might want to do? Or we just closed off and that's that's all I would really, literally ask everybody at this moment is like, are you are you open? Are you willing to be open to what the spirit might want to do in, in through you?

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Brenton
Good. Yeah. Moving on to the next one. You you laid out two goals for these two years. The first one was to the 100%, participation. And considering what it personally means to love the Lord with all that we are. The second is 100% participation and loving our neighbors. And I want to talk about the second goal a little bit.

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Brenton
One aspect of this obviously will be, the continued mission, engagement and advancement at Harmony through giving. But, what would you like to see as far as individuals engaging, the community? What does it look like for us to love our neighbors in, in our context?

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Chris
Well, we talked about some of it. And, I think the, the greatest way we love our neighbors is by sharing the love of Jesus with them. I mean, You know, there's nothing greater that you can do for anyone than to, to share the gospel. So, hopefully they believe in and they believe their literally their eternity is, is changed so that it begins there.

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Chris
I mean, most of our neighbors have significant needs in other ways as well. Some of them maybe economically, some of them, in other physical ways. And, and a lot of people, in a, in a mental, emotional way, like there's a huge, huge need. So, we've talked about this a little bit, but our, our counseling, ministry is like going bonkers.

00;28;30;11 - 00;28;48;26
Chris
And I mean that in the very best way in the sense of, like, just like people coming in and and people come, you know, coming into the Lord and, and life being changed. And the reason for that, I'm convinced, is, is, hey, we got a great counseling team, both lay and staff, and they be they share the gospel.

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Chris
But then see, it's like people there's people are needy and I and I don't mean that from at this point from a physical standpoint. But but like they're spiritually they are the woman at the. Well, they, they're, they're, they're looking in every other direction for, for for satisfaction. And contentment is not finding in their lost and in and this is in the greatest way in my lifetime and maybe by a long shot like, and I think Covid, I don't know, when we stop talking about Covid, but, we're almost five years now, not long.

00;29;27;05 - 00;29;27;19
Brenton
Enough ago.

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Chris
But, but but I think it's supercharged that and it, it led to or maybe it just exposed and just magnified the, the loneliness and the lostness and the despair. And people waking up and and just like, like this, this this isn't working. This isn't doing it for me. And so I just think, like, there's a lot of different ways that, that we can in our context, like, how do I, how do I love these people?

00;29;59;01 - 00;30;22;06
Chris
And maybe that's, which is me in a financial need, but maybe that's means just being a friend to them. They just need somebody to listen to, to talk to. Maybe it means, you know, spiritually in terms of I'm going to, share the gospel or I'm going to start a Bible study with them, or, you know, maybe it's I'm going to go work at the cupboard or be involved in some of their community ministries.

00;30;22;06 - 00;30;35;10
Chris
I mean, there's like there's so many different ways. And, I will say, I think our church is doing an amazing job. There's so many people who are just pouring themselves out. So, kudos in many ways.

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Brenton
Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so as we wrap up, can you reiterate the the three steps that you'd like the church to take right now? So you said call, consider and concentrate and just kind of go over those one more time.

00;30;50;19 - 00;31;06;06
Chris
Yeah. I can yeah I said cork is that are in concentrate and or and I've got three peas. Yeah. They're pray ponder promote

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Brenton
At of the seas though

00;31;07;18 - 00;31;37;23
Chris
Well here's the deal. I am, you know, talking about this in so many different contexts, in so many different ways. You've you've heard it, how many times already? And we're just actually beginning. So, I'm, you know, trying to figure out different ways to say it. So let's, let's do the peas. So pray, you know, just begin to pray that, there would be 100% participation in all of the people who are involved.

00;31;37;23 - 00;32;04;03
Chris
Church will be all in. Ponder is just begin to consider to think even pray about like how what does this mean for me again, be open to it. And then what promote is, I just am hoping and, you know, people are listening to this podcast, I think by and large, or people who are in, on the mission that God has given Harmony Bible Church.

00;32;04;03 - 00;32;22;13
Chris
And so, if that's you, just be be someone who's like, yeah, I'm going to be all in and I'm going to help other people to be all in. And we're going to we just need people to we need people to lead the way. And the more people that lead the way, the more participation I think that we will see.

00;32;22;16 - 00;32;23;08
Chris
Yeah.

00;32;23;10 - 00;32;31;26
Brenton
It's good. All right. Well, thanks for the explanation on that. We'll be back next week. Actually, we have three different preachers again, so.

00;32;31;27 - 00;32;32;06
Chris


00;32;32;13 - 00;32;34;28
Brenton
I don't plan on Chris being here. We'll see.

00;32;35;00 - 00;32;36;02
Chris
I will not be here.

00;32;36;05 - 00;32;37;22
Brenton
So there you go. No, Chris.

00;32;37;22 - 00;32;40;17
Chris
Next we're going to be here, gone.

00;32;40;25 - 00;32;51;29
Brenton
But, Yeah. If you got any questions, even about this, all in initiative, send it in, ask it further. Podcast.com, and we will talk to you next week.